• AbyssalBleat@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Yes, I read their posts just fine, nothing you said is news. I objected that “there’s no evidence Russia has ever done genocide before” is not a coherent argument against the allegations that Russian forces are committing genocide previously. I also disagree there’s no evidence it’s happening now, but the particular argument that “they didn’t do it in a different war, so they can’t be doing it in this one” is just absurd on its face and was the one I wanted to reply to the most.

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      6 days ago

      That’s not what was said. What was said was that there is not evidence of a genocide happening now, and the response was that they COULD commit a genocide if Ukraine surrendered.

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        6 days ago

        No, no, you’re definitely in the wrong here. Let’s go through the play-by-play;

        But there is no evidence for your premise. Russia was an antagonist interfering in other countries before the Ukraine regime change, but they didn’t engage in conquest and genocide.

        So this here is a post, from AlteredEgo. In it, they said that Russia doing things in the past that weren’t conquest and genocide meant that somehow genocide cannot be happening now.

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          6 days ago

          Nope. You’re skipping over the important bits.

          Famko said: “Russia is a nazi state, hellbent on promoting Russian ethnic supremacy.”

          and AlteredEgo said: “Russia was an antagonist interfering in other countries before the Ukraine regime change, but they didn’t engage in conquest and genocide. Nor do I know of state sanctioned discrimination between the different ethnicity living in Russia.”

          So AlteredEgo is providing the evidence against the claim that Russia is a nazi state hellbent on promoting Russian ethnic supremacy. If this were the case, it would seem that we would see evidence for it in their other conflicts and we do not.

          This is a perfectly reasonable argument to make.