Yes, communist ones. Now ask yourself what system is better, the one growing at a 5% GDP and average income yearly, or the one stagnating and turning to fascism

Any fascist parties in China or Cuba or Vietnam or Laos approaching power as in the case of the entire western world?

Again: point out the exact reference in the “report”, because I simply can’t find it, I already asked you twice to do that.

Anyway, amazing that your argument is “look, Uyghur genocide is real. And here’s the evidence: US intelligence state propaganda”

The document is from a US intelligence agency from what it seems, it’s poorly referenced, and even then there’s nothing post-2021, is there?

I explicitly asked to please point at the reference within the article, because I’m exhausted of people just finding articles on google on this topic on western media and sending them to me without reading them. Please tell me what post-2021 huma right abuses are referenced and well-sourced in the report

My views are that both these governments are terrible, though I admittedly am not very informed about China

Rofl. Lmao even

the treatment of ethnic minorities

You mean the US having the highest prison population in the world, to the point of 1 in 5 black men over 30 having been to jail at some point of their lives?

So, no mention of genocide?

Bye, won’t be missed

Uyghers are in one

There is no post-2021 evidence whatsoever of human right abuses of any sort in the Xinjiang province against Uyghur people. You can try to find stuff but you won’t find anything, I dare you to send me a single article that has an actual reference to actual evidence of post-2021 human right abuses. Send me an article and point to the actual reference within the article. I dare you.

Someone answered the comment above with a link, go check it out!

You have a ball on a trampoline. Wind might knock the ball around, but its very likely to return to the center of the trampoline. This is a psuedo stable arrangment.

No, it’s a local minimum, not pseudo stable. It’s just not the absolute minimum

Did… Did you just equate the former socialist state that was the Soviet Union to the contemporary proto-fascist and capitalist Russian Federation that literally emerged out of the dismantling and auctioning of the former??

Damn, you should tell that to the 700k homeless people in Germany, I’m sure they’ll be happy to know that

If the USSR had dissolved due to issues like the ones you’re talking about (Gulags being basically entirely dismantled after WW2 so 45 years before the dissolution, and breadlines being nonexistent until the 1980s liberalisation during Perestroika), it would have been dissolved with the popular consensus. There was a referendum in 1990 that asked the citizens of the Soviet Union if they wanted to maintain their country under communism and 70% of voters (admittedly a few republics didn’t participate) voted yes, so the USSR was extremely popular and people didn’t want it dissolved. The reasons for the illegal and antidemocratic dissolution of the USSR are much more complex than that.

Lmao, Germany has guaranteed housing?! Germany has Vonovia, a company that hoards real estate and rents it in terrible conditions, and own about 500k+ houses. In what universe does Germany have guaranteed housing when Berlin tried to implement a directly democratically voted rent cap on housing and it got repelled by the tribunals a year after it began?

Free healthcare in Germany is absolute bullshit. Yes, it’s free, but the quality of healthcare is astonishingly low. I’ve had the misfortune of living there for a few years, and the whole system is horrendous, especially for how ludicrously expensive it is compared to other European countries. In Germany, you have sick senior people queuing at 7AM in frosty winter mornings STANDING ON THE STREETS to be able to see the family doctor, you can consider yourself lucky if you can wait sitting in a stairwell indoors while waiting for the doctor. It’s beyond me how German people aren’t constantly on the street complaining about this bullshit, again especially given the absurdly high costs of public healthcare there.

Funny that you also mention freedom of speech, when in Germany they are literally arresting Jewish people for expressing antizionist and pro-Palestinian points of view. The actual Nazis run rampant though, friends of the police if not outright members of it, with an extreme rise of the far right.

There’s an ideological ocean between utopian socialism and actually-existing socialism, yes. There’s a reason why there’s not been a successful historical instance of socialism in which workers collectivised without taking the power of the state in their hands.

Calling it “authoritarian state” kinda portrays lack of knowledge at democratic power structures and mechanisms in former socialist countries. Examples for the USSR: highest unionisation rates in the world, announcement/news boarboards in every workplace administered by the union, free education to the highest level for everyone, free healthcare, guaranteed employment and housing (how do the supposedly “authoritarian leaders” benefit from that?), neighbour commissions legally overviewing the activity and transparency of local administration, neighbour tribunals dealing with most petty crime, millions of members of the party, women’s rights, local ethnicities in different republics having an option to education in their language and widespread availability of reading material and newspapers in their language… Please tell me one country that does that better nowadays

User: “we don’t have a lot of problems with capitalists here”

Also user: immediately starts to shit on a flavour of socialism

Actually I’ll bite the bullet. Tell me your definition of imperialism

Again, you believing that holding a rifle in your hand is imperialism is why anarchists consistently fail. And again, please question yourself why you repeat every position on communism that US state propaganda shares

“Akchually I wasn’t referring to the pact that I explicitly mentioned by making reference to the ‘Polish partition’ and which you successfully argued against using historical points that I will proceed to disregard with a deep fried picture of Jake Peralta, I am very smart”. Your willful lack of understanding of Realpolitik and the needs of revolution are exactly the reasons why 1) you agree with every point fabricated by US state department propaganda against communism 2) anarchism has systematically failed as an alternative to capitalism. Literally “picking up a gun to defend against US imperialism is actually imperialism too, despite the lack of economic exploitation of periphery areas that characterises imperialism”