capitalism is right wing, correct.

but not all pro-capitalists are capitalists.

a pro-capitalist could be right wing, or they could be a victim of the powerful capitalist propaganda machine. this is how we get “bootlickers” and “temporarily embarrassed billionaires.”

more generally, OOP commits the sin of trying to wedge a specific category with economic meaning into a broad unspecific category which can have various economic manifestations depending on who you ask and at what time.

it’s an okay post. not particularly insightful and could use some workshopping.

the virgin bus route weeps and gnashes at the feet of CHAD STREETCAR

“These ‘take a train’ crowd” tend to be also the ones saying “build more trains, light rail, and tram lines, also bike lanes” but who are prevented from making progress at every turn by oil and motor lobbyists. They are very aware of the limitations but generally encourage it because it’s a good thing to do.

WE ONCE HAD STREETCARS LOOK WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US

i think it’s less that “this is unusual” and more that “this is another in a long line of things that is making it hard for people right now also trump literally promised to deal with this but he’s out here yapping about the panama canal right now”

no you have to be pro biden weapons sale otherwise you are antisemitic (deep sarcasm)

hmm i think your analysis is right, but im personally super iffy on your proposed solution.

… ya cuz its proportionally underreported. underreported doesn’t mean “not reported” lol

lefty who makes rhetorical memes here: while i post them to lemmy and all over the internet, i don’t usually post them here because why would i preach to the choir.

i don’t know if i am alone in this experience or not but if not it might explain some of what you are expressing.

$5.2 billion through USAID since 1994.

and $200 billion in aid to Israel since 1946, including $12 billion in direct military aid since October 7, 2023, since which date there have been 40x more palestinian deaths than israeli!

whoops indeed! everyone point and laugh at the silly goose 🫵🤣

99% agree but not sure where “violently” comes in. I would label it more structural oppression or coercion. Still awful, and violence has certainly been invoked under other legislation and government action, but just to be accurate :)

good comment

well yeah that’s… not a nuanced position. “theyve always been fighting” runs counter to any non-propagandized “basic history lesson.” kind of proved their point.

Not at the ballot box.

??? feel like you need to read my comment again so I will just let this be. I am talking about pro-Palestine movements being further left than all but 17 represantives by calling for ceasefire. Of course they are not doing well at the ballot box; they are a minority.

The problem with any conversation about “centrism” is that its a title anyone can claim

Agree, and also a title anyone can plaster, as has been done by this post against real pro-Palestine groups whom I greatly doubt would apply the label to themselves.

It’s illustrative of the state of national media

Yea, so laugh and attack that destructive status quo rather than student groups who do better than most. Attacking these well-intentioned, if imperfect, young people and their educators honestly just makes me sad because it’s doing absolutely nothing rhetorically to shift the overton window and contributes to an alienation of young people from the left.

fnuny meme but if you read the article i don’t think calling them “centrist” is defensible:

Mr. Aboutboul is a founding member of Students for Standing Together, a new student group at U.C.L.A. that aims to unite Israelis and Palestinians to call for a cease-fire in Gaza.

so these “centrists” are doing statistically better than your representatives. the comments here talking about “only committing a half genocide” are just doing bad faith echo chamber discourse, which i don’t find the be productive.

At Columbia University, Aharon Dardik, an Israeli American student, formed a group called CU Jews for Ceasefire after finding that his viewpoint wasn’t fully reflected in the main pro-Palestinian student movement. He is a pacifist who spent his teen years with his family in the West Bank but who ultimately refused to serve in the army in Israel. He believes in working with Israelis and Palestinians toward collective liberation and a world not divided by ethnonationalist allegiances.

Dr. Waxman also became a target of right-wing pro-Israel groups, including after he wrote on social media that he supported the International Criminal Court’s request for an arrest warrant for Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, a position he said he took as a supporter of international law.

no hate to OP but let’s laugh loudly at the ones who deserve to be scoffed and mocked, not the people who are actively supporting Palestinian emancipation. i’m sure there’s stuff to be criticized in these folks but if there is, find it and call it the fuck out specifically instead of hand-waving “centrist”—especially when doing so just deplatforms the underrepresented Jewish Anti-Zionist population.

(honestly let’s laugh at whoever wrote and approved that headline, it does no service here.)

but but the seal lullaby :(

but eric whitacre :(

alright dude

There are two main positions on the historicity of the Exodus in modern scholarship.[1] The majority position is that the biblical Exodus narrative has some historical basis, although there is little of historical fact in it.[e][5][11] The other position, often associated with the school of Biblical minimalism,[25][26] is that the biblical exodus traditions are the invention of the exilic and post-exilic Jewish community, with little to no historical basis.[27] Wikipedia

“i’m so sorry sir but your family has only lived in this household for checks notes 100 years and three generations. yeah so you are basically immigrants sorry, you understand why i have to bulldoze everything you own.”