These are peaceful rallies steered by liberal groups. Those thousands of protestors aren’t exactly militant, they didn’t show up for that. If any radical action actually happened those people will leave and never show up again.
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I think the point is davel has you tagged “ignorantass” on lemmy. Which would imply some kind of equivalent system exists on lemmy too.
Apparently you died waiting for the perfect revolution. Sorry you had to find out this way.
We aren’t anywhere near the idea of perfect revolution, people are still caught up with perfect action planning, perfect rallys, perfect protests, perfect meetings! So many people over think the most basic stuff, it comes from a good place, but it usually leads to impotence.
“Golly gee, our org is so terribly white, that means we can never organize around or make a statement regarding black issues. What if we get something wrong and someone calls us out?” and then the group proceeds to do nothing
That’s the type of shit I hear damn near every single time I’m in an irl organizing space. That’s where the “radical left” is in my area. I know you all have dealt with it too.
You gotta use the information and experience you have to the best of your abilities and move forward. Doing something imperfect will get you far more community respect than doing nothing.
Just so you know, nothing of value (you) was lost.
While I understand how you feel, you gotta think about how news gets reported.
Republicans aren’t so far off when they talk about the “liberal news media”. The news reports democrats failings significantly less, or frames it using more neutral language than how republicans are reported.
During bidens presidency I literally never heard anything about deportations, yet he did deport a significant amount of people. More than the amount we’ve seen from trump (so far).
No matter the justifications, the tone, or the methods, deportations still happened, and currently more of them happened under both Biden and Obama than with Trump. People most certainly were hurt and/or killed in that process too.
While I don’t personally uphold them, they’re arguably the easiest of all the “AES” countries to make a case for.
Obama and Biden are allowed to have as many deportations as they want. Infinite deportations. Its only bad because Republicans are doing it.
You can make criticisms of both. Just actually talk from a place of knowing what you are talking about when you do it.
While I’m not a leftcom, Bordiga is probably one of the more solid critics of Stalin. I disagree with Bordiga’s criticism, but I can track and understand where he was coming from because he very clearly actually did the reading.
What I don’t always respond kindly to, is someone going “14 kajillion dead, worse than hitler, authoritarian”.
Libs politics are in support of capitalism. Put another way, those politics stand in the way of working class liberation. There isn’t a compromise here, we have to drive out all the pro-capitalist notions in the minds of the working class.
Is this meme the propaganda for achieving that? Maybe not. But the sentiment that liberal politics are right wing is correct and you won’t find a single socialist worth their salt who disagrees with that.
We will organize among working class people with backwards ideas and a lack of understanding at times, but we NEVER promote or work with liberal politicians or parties.
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252·4 months agoYou’re more impure than pure if you fail this one.
I have actually! I told you to vote 3rd party. Which is what I do. I vote for parties that actually reflect my interests.
And when they don’t win I continue doing what I always do, party work.
And I’m sure the party that keeps winning due to this mindset is going to change the system, I’m sure their corporate donors would allow them to do that.
Definitely. /s
We can achieve a better system, there is nothing so exceptional about the US electoral system, especially the democratic party itself, that we have to confine ourselves to it.
Nobody ever said you can’t vote. Plenty of 3rd parties and independents at all levels.
Trans people have been on the DNC chopping block for a while now. I hate to break that to you, but the Democrats won’t save us.
Your argument boiled down to human nature vibes based politics. (ie bullshit ie nothing to refute)
“It’s not even capitalism”
“rich elite”
So its capitalism.
Tbh olives are a far bigger tragedy when it comes to toppings on pizza.


I don’t really care if it is stealing. Steal all you want. The random dude making the modern day equivalent of a flash game is certainly not counting on game sales to make ends meet, and the corporations can get fucked and die.
:)