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  • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyztoMemes@lemmy.mlI'm too high for this
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    3 years ago

    would you get mad if someone kicked a dog for fun? Would it upset you if someone punched you in the face or stole your stuff? If so gtfo with that religious attitude, morals are only related to religion and the rest of us enlightened atheists can do anything we want

    edit: to be clear, morals are important and good when they’re constructed rationally to protect sentient beings (human and non-human) from exploitation and abuse. Religious morals are deeply problematic because they’re not constructed rationally, and they try to restrict consenting adults from doing certain things together and they allow other horrific behaviors as totally fine. There’s a large, meaningful difference between animal rights and religious morals



  • Jokes on john locke, i’m an organ donor anyways 😎

    but to a degree I agree. in that chef example, at any point the chef could revoke consent and stop at any time. Likewise, somebody shouldn’t be able to sell themselves into slavery but it would be fine to agree to do work for free or under slavery conditions as long as you can revoke consent at any time. But the right should be inalienable such that nobody should be in a position where they could be coerced into doing that, it would have to be 100% voluntary and enthusiastic. Like if somebody was in a position where it was either agree to being a slave or be homeless or starve or otherwise suffer, then I would argue society has failed them, we didn’t protect their rights adequately












  • Yep, and this is where we start getting to the limits of my knowledge and the weeds of politics. Generally speaking i think as a species we have a lot of jobs that don’t need to exist or shouldn’t exist, and a lot of people who would be left in poverty without them (and many who already are in poverty simply because there are more people than profitable things to do). I think there has got to be some way of meeting everyone’s basic needs without a pretty binary choice of working a traditional job or living in poverty, but exactly what that looks like idk. I have some ideas, but they’re probably not worth getting into here/now

    No problem, and i wouldn’t say you’re dumb about these things. More accepting of injustice than i’d like maybe, but not dumb. I couldn’t find those numbers on their site, how much is it?



  • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyztoMemes@lemmy.mlBut I love death
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    3 years ago

    Many anti-lgbtq+ folks think that people who support or are a part of the lgbtq+ are insufferable, but here we are making progress for peoples rights.

    If you want to be a bigot against nonhuman animals and their rights, i can’t stop you. But at least be aware that that’s what’s happening. People perpetuating injustice are never going to be happy with those against it no matter how it’s presented, so i’d rather just be as clear and concise as I can