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  • mumblerfish@lemmy.worldtoLefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comDiscussion
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    2 years ago

    What you are saying fits the american “liberal” label. What you are describing I would call social democrat, not a liberal. People calling themselves liberal in europe are, examples from sweden: compares public insight into publicly funded privatly owned companies to soviet, are for privatization of welfare institutions, collaborates with the far right, calls rightwing newspapers communist, and are against free speech at universities.

    To be fair though, the meme is probably targeting socdems anyway so I guess fair enough.




  • mumblerfish@lemmy.worldtoLefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comevergreen meme
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    For me it is a frustration over that liberals would rather endanger the liberal democracy by working with the far right than collaborating with anything considered left. It is very obvious in Sweden. The swedish far right has declared that the liberal democratic project is a threat to their nationalist vision – it’s not just me as a leftist saying this, but liberals, as in the Liberal party, said this about them. Then came the last election, the Liberals sided with the far right. Its down to two liberal MPs and they could force a switch from the far right to just center lib politics. But no. They rather want prisons for children than work with a socdem and maybe suffer to have a cap on profits on charter schools.


  • mumblerfish@lemmy.worldtoLefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comevergreen meme
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    2 years ago

    Swedish liberals do

    On Monday, Renew Europe chairman Stéphane Séjourné took distance from the decision of the Swedish Liberals to sign a government agreement that favours the far-right.

    “I acknowledge that the Swedish Liberals blocked the far right from entering the government,” he told Politico, adding that he regrets “the agreement and the direction it is taking. “A government with the far right cannot have our blessing”, he said.

    Sources within Renew Europe confirmed to EURACTIV that Séjourné personally regretted the decision of the Swedish Liberals on account of the “common values” shared by the Renew Europe members.

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/all/short_news/swedish-parliament-approves-far-right-backed-government-amid-liberal-discontent/

    It should be noted that “blocked the far right” means “gave far right influence over the government with no accountability instead of collaborating with social democrates”.

    Renew later also let the Swedish Liberals stay in their group, so they to some degree agree with the strategy of giving the far right influence over the government as long as it means you never have to work with a socdem.


  • In Sweden they seem to be trying to make the first one true. A university made it forbidden to have ‘any conversation that may be interpreted as political to a passer-by’ anywhere on campus. It was celebrated by the minister for higher education (liberal party member) as a brilliant step against “wokeness”. It was retracted, because it is not possible to enforce. But the government is doing an investigation against universities to root out “wokeness”.




  • mumblerfish@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlThe difference explained
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    2 years ago

    Maybe like in Sweden, where the liberals went from calling themselves proud of being called the enemies of fascism, saying they will hide refugees if made illegal, to just straight up calling it “liberal politics actually”, and are now collaborating with them to form a government. Crazy how that happens every time.