Dr. Moose

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it’s not just a register. As Chinese you literally need a permission to relocate otherwise you are essentially a 2nd class citizen and cannot use public services like hospitals or schools or as in the OP’s meme “buy a house”.

It’s almost impossible to get Hukou approved to economically rich zones like Shenzhen so basically it’s not even a unified country in that sense as if you’re born in a shit-middle-of-nowhere village you are literally stuck there as an economic slave unless you find a way to game Hukou or just ignore it and remain a 2nd tier citizen with significantly reduced rights.

I’m speaking from experience as there are legit top tier developers stuck in nowhere china because they just can’t move to Shenzhen unless they find an powerful employer to bribe the system and if you are neurotypical or disabled you are completely fucked. Guess what they do with all that talent and no legal means to capitalize on it?

Even European Union which is a collection of many completely different countries has more rights in citizen migration. isn’t that crazy?

how come other countries don’t need this insane oppression? Also did you finish the actual wiki page?

During the Great Chinese Famine from 1958 to 1962, having an urban versus a rural hukou could mean the difference between life and death.[33] During this period, nearly all of the approximately 600 million rural hukou residents were collectivized into village communal farms, where their agricultural output—after state taxes—would be their only source of food. With institutionalized exaggeration of output figures by local Communist leaders and massive declines in production, state taxes during those years confiscated nearly all food in many rural communes, leading to mass starvation and the deaths of more than 65 million Chinese people.[34]

The 100 million urban hukou residents, however, were fed by fixed food rations established by the central government, which declined to an average of 1500 calories per day at times but still allowed survival for almost all during the famine. An estimated 95% or higher of all deaths occurred among rural hukou holders. With the suppression of news internally, many city residents were not aware that mass deaths were occurring in the countryside at all. This was essential to preventing organized opposition to Mao’s policies.[35]

The bootlicking is crazy here.

Lmao Chinese can’t even move to the other cities of their own country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou

It’s absolutely possible to remain just and free while being secure. Skill issue.

Maybe read it again?

Or you can be smart and just and have your cake and eat it too. See dozens of countries that prosper without sacrificing their freedoms and justice. You guys are just doomer losers simping for dictators because your minds are too small to imagine a real victory.

Not even going to reply to your strawman. I said that it’s weak mentality to say “ends justify the means and sacrifice justice and freedom for the sake of fighting a foreign oppressor” - maybe that’s easier to understand? Weak people, weak minds, skill issue.

What a loser-ass mentality. It’s absolutely possible to remain just and free while being secure. Skill issue.

Honestly all political discussions here are so cursed. Its just people yelling. Fuck that.

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Honestly, not going to continue with this as clearly we’re not going to find any value in this comment thread so have a good day and I hope you feel better :)

Whatever makes you feel better about your flavor of brain wash my friend. At the end of the day I’d rather have flawed democracy and capitalism than whatever else is on the table. At least there’s a path forward here.

not an american, I grew up in the Soviet empire, don’t care about your dumb walls of propaganda. Try again.

Nope, grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Fuck that, I’ll take flawed capitalism over whatever torture and misery was that thanks. You are free to disagree more politely tho.

Survivors bias. People in Russia or China don’t appear to complain about their systems because… they can’t.

Soviet Union? It was uncommon for a family of 6 to live in a small apartment. You can even see it in old soviet movies where apartments would be separated by curtains (common comedy trope).

White blood cells are pizza dough. It’s all connected.

It’s always trying to escape but it just ends up dragging me to bars, strip clubs and all other bad places. I think it wants to kill me but slowly.

Honestly I’d take homeless any time of the year over the culture that is fostered in those Russian type block houses. It’s far worse.