
No loss.
Equating Zionism with Nazism/Fascism is ignorant, historically inacurate and hateful.
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Do you hate Netanjahu and the Israeli people that protest against him equally?



Haganah actually fought against Irgun and Lehi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saison
“The Haganah, the largest Yishuv paramilitary, was a Labor Zionist organization; on occasion, it partook in military action (such as during The Saison) against certain radical right-wing Jewish political opponents and militant groups, sometimes in cooperation with the British Mandate administration.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism#History
And the Irgun split from Haganah, because they were presumably too defensive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah#1931_Irgun_split

Ah, the good old comparison of Israel and Nazis. Please be antisemitic somewhere else.

The Kibbutz movement is heavily influenced by Anarchism for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Israel.

Socialist Zionists were probably oppressed just like Socialist Anti-Zionists.

I wasn’t talking about Israel’s politics, but about the very diverse history of Zionism. Also comparing Israel with Nazi Germany isn’t pretty problematic.

What do you mean? I didn’t declare anything.

No you don’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism

Yeah, because Zionism is not particularly about the land of today’s Israel and Palestine, but about a Jewish state in some form.

Socialist Zionism is not at all about excluding, exploiting or oppressing.
Funnily enough it was also Albert Einstein, who supported Labor Zionism.


Jewish culture and history, especially Zionism is as diverse as every other culture and people is. Picking the worst doesn’t show the whole picture about Zionism. There is a whole Socialist and even Anarchist tradition of and within Zionism.
EDIT: I didn’t mean to offend anybody and everybody has a right to criticize Israel. My whole point is that Israel’s history and especially Zionism is obviously not one-sided, but is also rich in liberal and progressive ideas, that are worth to studied.
If you are interested in Socialist Zionism I recommend the following article as a starting point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism
“For many years, it [socialist Zionism] was the most significant tendency among Zionists and Zionist organizations, and was seen as the Zionist sector of the historic Jewish labour movements of Eastern Europe and Central Europe, eventually developing local units in most countries with sizable Jewish populations.”
Which one is it?

The JDA is incapable of defining any discrimination against non-jewish people as antisemitism because it defines antisemitism as discrimination “of Jews as Jews”. In Nazi-Germany thousands of non-jewish people were prosecuted and killed because the Nazis just claimed that they were Jewish, something that would not be antisemitism according to the JDA.