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    8 days ago

    And the enemies always attempt to leverage their perfectionism against them.

    Even if a liberal or progressive or leftist does something, there’s always gonna be some asshole that jumps out and is like, oh yeah, but did you think about this thing? Unfortunately, you are not perfect, therefore you are entirely invalid and should be derided.

    We’ve been watching the literal play out of the perfect as the enemy of the good for the last decade, and almost nobody has picked up on it, and we still have all of these stupid-ass divides when, in general, our goals align and we could worry about perfectionism after we’ve gotten rid of the cancer.





  • You make a good point, like copyright rules were supposed to protect the small people, the artists that actually make the work, but an entire cottage industry has grown up around the idea of copyright to fund businesses to make absurd amounts of money and to punish people for enjoying the art in a way that does not produce the most profit for the copyright owner.

    For instance, I would argue that nintendo fan art and derivatives of things like Mario have done more to enshrine Nintendo as one of the premier game companies in the world than most of their games have themselves, and yet Nintendo is ridiculously litigious over its IP, either suing or threatening to sue dozens if not hundreds of people over making derivative fan art over their love of the IP.

    It’s actually why I’m boycotting Nintendo, not because they’ve done anything to me, but they’ve done things to their superfans that are in my mind so egregious that they are not deserving of money from me.


  • I think it’s quite possible to separate the art from the artist as long as the artist does not do something that is so transgressive that it tanks everything they’ve ever done.

    Rockstars that use their fame and wealth to seduce and sleep with underaged people?

    You kinda can’t separate that.

    It’s pretty much sex stuff.

    Like, if you’re famous and you use your fame to force or coerce people to do things with you sexually that they would not have done otherwise, then you can’t separate the art from the artist.

    But like, tragic poets that do a murder suicide. It’s also an abhorrent thing to do. It’s taking someone else’s life against their will and then taking your own so that you don’t face any consequences from that action. And yet, you can still enjoy the poetry they wrote, at least if enough time has passed.

    I mean, there’s also the knowledge that many of the great ancient philosophers probably owned slaves in ancient Greece.

    It was just a normal thing back then.

    But we don’t say “fuck Aristotle that slave-owning bitch!” We still study his work and quote them to each other like it’s just a normal thing.

    (I don’t know if Aristotle owned slaves. I’m just saying that chances are, amongst the ancient Greek philosophers, there were quite a few slave owners, and nobody makes a big deal of that)

    So yeah, depending on what they did, you can separate the art from the artist, but if it were something that would get you lynched for non-racist reasons in the Old West, or that would cause people to cheer when the person that murdered you for your actions didn’t receive any punishment, then maybe not.