Coming from someone who always votes left down the ticket because I live in a republican state hell hole:

There’s a reason we want democrats in charge. They aren’t perfect, but my state had a democrat governor (somehow) for 8 years until this year. The very first thing the supermajority red government did was axe the ethics board. The next thing they did was pass laws banning books that acknowledged gay culture at all and a unilateral bathroom bill with felony penalties.

The “both sides are the different flavors of fascism” take only works when you’re completely blind to what republicans are actually out there doing.

I like the “formally” vs “formerly” suggesting Elon is never going to get away from Twitter in favor of X

Being self righteous about doing nothing is worse.

Despite your own brand of defeatism in insisting the outcome is the same no matter what, one side actually is better. Even if the metric of “better” pales on the grand scheme of what we deserve or should be doing.

I’m not trying to project self-righteousness by recognizing that there are only two real choices. I’m asserting that advocating non-action or pointless action is such a tired trope that what you’re doing is circlejerking for dopamine instead of applying what little influence you have as an individual to work toward the avoiding the actual worst outcome.

When the American populace as a whole is brainwashed into believing the only choices are red and blue, you have to accept that whining about it and voting green (or not voting) is going to accomplish nothing.

So make your colorful allegory and feel good about yourself on the internet. In the end, you are accomplishing less than the people you look down on who recognize the shitty reality of our situation.

Ah yes, the old “my solutions are the only ones that work” Good luck with that.

By the way, deciding that everyone but you is a fascist is a great way to not have allies.

spread disinformation swearing up and down that leftists do nothing but tell people not to vote (which I’ve literally NEVER seen, by the way, not that fascists care about reality.)

Bro. Look around. There are people saying they won’t vote democrat here in this comment section, much less the whole of leftist lemmy.

Block me, I don’t care. There’s no point in arguing with someone virtue signaling as hard as you are anyway.

Hope you don’t mind being blocked back. I don’t have time to argue with an idealist basement dweller about some imaginary solutions that make him feel better

^ Someone who sees the problem and offers no solution, just like everyone else with their position

You can fly your pride flags all you want but you’re throwing Palestinians under the bus to protect your warmongering corporatist status quo

There are no good guys. Only bad guys and much worse guys. Guess you want to virtue signal your way into the much worse guy so you can feel better? That’s great, but maybe when we’re lynching lgbtq folk as well as Palestinians you might consider looking in a mirror and wondering if your inaction made things worse.

Or, more likely, you’ll complain about how doing something doesn’t matter while the actual fascists you can’t tell the difference between set their sights on another marginalized group.

Do something or join the people who are.

Yeah, I should have let it go about 3 comments back. I guess there’s no better time than the present

Gee thanks officer. I stated something that was correct to within 99% of my claim and cited a source. Good thing you were there to correct the remaining 1% for the poor readers out there who might have mistaken that error as significant

Congratulations. You’ve proven me wrong that an inconsequential, literally marginal number of conservatives vote 3rd party.

That in itself doesn’t change my original point.

Here’s your award for being technically correct 🎖️

What you said is technically correct, while ignoring the context.

Being technically correct about something that doesn’t change the overall picture and hailing it as the end of an argument is petty and dishonest.

One day you will get the point that the reality is that we as voters don’t make the rules.

Yeah, you’re right. We’re boxed into this shitty ass system. Grandstanding about how shitty it is doesn’t magically create a solution.

We vote for the least worst option and try to make progress towards a better situation in the future. It’s either that or we fall to actual fascists who would rather take the vote away.

Yeah, about 1% of the voting body. The point that conservatives don’t vote for a third party stands with a margin of error within 1%.

Contrast that to the 8 other independent or left leaning third parties on the ballot in 2020.

You’re trying to shut down my original point with a counter point that is both moot and also trying really hard to be made on a technicality.

Only one explicitly right wing 3rd party was even an option in 2020, and Jorgensen ran libertarian, which is an ideology conservatives as a whole tend to reject. As evidenced by the ~1% of the vote she got.

this isn’t true

Are you sure about that?

Why indeed? The fact is that not enough people vote for third parties for it to matter by an order of magnitude.

Conservatives don’t vote third party. When we do, we split our own vote in the face of a party that has their base on lock.

Because that logic is abundantly obvious, people don’t vote third party enough to make a difference. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. And it’s so effective at actually splitting the vote that both parties have attempted running spoiler candidates in the past to do just that.

Why doesnt everyone just vote third party? Because enough people who could are afraid that it will mean degrading democracy by handing over the reigns if it doesn’t work, thereby creating the very problem that they are afraid of.

Asserting this is obtusely ignoring the context that conservative voters have no qualms about voting for someone grossly immoral.

There aren’t conservatives out there saying “Yeah well I was gonna vote for Trump but he supports genociding Palestinians”.

The fact that conservatives don’t have this problem and everyone else does means that, yes, you are enabling Trump by not voting Biden. The “logic” necessarily does not work the other way around, even if you say it like some sort of clever gotcha with a complex emoji.

“Give me all of your money and god will cure your cancer!” obvious scam and a lie.

“Give me all of your money and god will make your credit card debt vanish” is another thing I’ve seen mega-church types say.

Incidentally, there’s a conjecture around Christian circles I’ve seen that says these kinds of actions are what the phrase “thou shalt not take the lord’s name in vain” actually warns against.

Not cursing, as it has become commonly associated with, but the literal act of using the lord for vain purposes. Like saying “Give me your money and god will cure your cancer”

While I agree with you that the teacher in this post is wrong about what this is, I don’t think labeling “gender bigotry” indiscriminately as something both sexes do under one umbrella is accomplishing anything but minimizing the struggle women have endured for basically all of human existence up until the last few decades.

Personally, I wouldn’t fault this woman for thinking what she does if she’s willing to accept a broader explanation later, given that women have literally been sold as property up until a couple hundred years ago.

Women have the right to at least posit the ways they as a group have been held down, and that includes accepting their indignation and allowing them grace for when they’re wrong, because without those things they won’t actually learn the truth.

Further than that, I think it’s necessary for women learning now to have the same realization this one did that women throughout all of history save for this recent tiny sliver have been oppressed. Even if it’s built on an incidentally faulty premise, that doesn’t mean the realization itself is wrong.

Covering up the discourse by labeling the process of realization as “gender bigotry” is itself an attempt at erasure, and very much puts you on the side of the oppressors, just because you think it’s distasteful to have this realization yourself.

I’m sure gender bigotry exists in the direction of women towards men. This ain’t it.

I’d be more inclined to see your point, except that the manager in question said “each job requires 2 weeks notice” like he was indignant that he didn’t get something he deserved.

That’s not only not true at all, it’s active manipulation on their part in a hail Mary attempt to have their work covered for enough time to look for another employee.

It may be unprofessional to quit without notice, but it’s really unprofessional to present the act of quitting as requiring 2 weeks’ notice, particularly in a place that might also allow the employer to fire someone for any reason at any time with no notice.

Btw, I still won’t reply and can’t see yours, but I just wanted you to know I think it’s cute that you’re compulsively down voting my comments. It’s the sign of someone with no other recourse lol

What I’ve read so far about each of those cases is that nato was deployed to either halt a genocide or suppress a terrorist organization. Both of those things are still defensive actions.

Though I guess they could be interpreted as aggressive by countries that are pro-genocide and pro-terrorism, so it makes perfect sense that a Russia/China instance would be pissing themselves.

Your fears are based in the aggressive nature of the countries you simp for, so do carry on. Nothing I say is going to convince you one way or the other if you’re already eating the propaganda cereal.