Trump = Israel does what it wants, no guilt felt

Harris = Israel does what it wants, guilt felt

That is literally it. I’m sure she will call for a ceasefire. I think she even already has. The problem is she won’t force the issue (by stopping weapons shipments) and she won’t change Biden’s overall policy. She is in favour of continuing the genocide so long as it keeps Israel happy. That’s it. She would never say that but that is what’s happening.

The fact that she’s still much better than Trump is an indictment of the American political landscape.

YES CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT TRUMP.

Ok now can we talk about Biden’s failure?

I care about the genocide which is actually happening right now and Biden is aiding and supporting. That’s why I’m talking about that while you chose to pivot to talking about the election. Trump being worse does not excuse Biden. Or protect him from criticism. The fact that you didn’t respond on any specifics and just doubled down on this “but Trump!” whataboutism is just sad.

I didn’t dismiss those points, they are just not relevant to the discussion about Biden and Gaza.

When we’re taking about the election It seems like I will totally agree with you.

1. But there’s the Leahy law, which is basically never applied to Israel but clearly makes it illegal to do so. Why does he ignore that?

2. Great! But firstly, it isn’t working and clearly he isn’t using all available leverage (e.g. Leahy). And how is veto-ing UNSC resolutions for a cease fire (and Palestinian statehood, lol) helping this, exactly? Seems like the opposite.

3 to 6 is whataboutism. It’s not relevant

7 - The issue here is that you’re again assuming they won’t vote for Biden when actually many of us will. If such a person will vote Biden, do you believe that they care?

Biden is literally sending bombs to Israel and is the current president, leader of the free world, yada yada. Trump’s support right now is just that, vocal. Although of course he was shitty when he was president. But that is why for me personally Biden is the one to criticise right now.

I understand why it’s annoying though if it seems very one sided. But “claim to care” - I think with an ongoing genocide it’s a very easy thing to care about. Why would you doubt that they care?

The first two words in my last response were “Vote Biden” sooooooooo…

Vote Biden, obviously. His Gaza policy is still absolute dog shit. It is not complicated and pretending that anyone criticising him for it is voting for trump is dumb as fuck

I am not superior, I just think that “who should we vote for?” is a question for the ballot box and “what should we do?” is a more important question for the rest of the time.

Ah, so rather than go against Trump’s bad policy and do something actually GOOD for our fellow human beings, we need to stick to this compromise position where we do something almost as bad as him? Because we are more worried about losing pro genocide voters than we are about an actual genocide, or something?

I hope that you can see how the “liberal” position on this is fucking disgusting

Åkesson joined SD when it was openly a Nazi party to “change it from the inside.” Could not be more like the comic. All he got them to do was update the rhetoric. If there was another panel of the comic, all of the same people would be there but they just wouldn’t be wearing the uniforms anymore and he’d be sitting there all smug saying “mission accomplished.”

Yep, everyone claims to be a “moderate” when it suits them, especially the far right. Like Åkesson they realise the optics are bad and put on a nice suit while supporting the same horrendous shit they always did

Oh look it’s Jimmie Åkesson

Sounds like a lot of semantic twisting and turning so it’s easier to feel ok with voting for someone currently aiding a genocide. That’s fine but let’s not pretend it reflects the reality of the situation

E.g. candidate A wants to give the death penalty to all crimes.

Candidate B wants to give the death penalty to murderers

Is voting for candidate B an anti death penalty vote? I think that is absurd

Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.

Joe Biden is “only” Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.

Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.

No, it’s a vote for genocide, but less. Still the right thing to do of course, but I’m sure you can see how that is still a vote for genocide. No need to twist yourself in knots to justify this, it’s a vote for genocide AND the only sensible thing you can do in the current American political system.

Personally I can understand how this doesn’t sell people on the idea so well. Maybe Biden just shouldn’t do that

POV: you are the wall of a padded cell

Didn’t know this guy’s story but he seems really nice.