Non vegans at least have the excuse of being deeply indoctrinated, and having 90+ percent of people reenforcing and defending their behaviour. The ultra rich dont.

Was talking about the Paris commune in particular, the national assembly is an example of where rich people fall. Rather than share bread they’ll install fascist military dictatorships.

Keeping people in a cage is crueler and riskier than just killing them. If anyone voluntarily gives up their wealth and power I’m all for forgiveness, I’ve never seen it happen but even serial killers have voluntarily turned themselves in and sought help.

I don’t think you quite grasp just how far gone the rich are.

It’s absolutely not 0, people constantly try non violent means of renegotiating social relations and get nowhere, in fact they usually get executed for the trouble. Revolutions have left people alive and they consistently side with counterrevolutionary forces and violently crush anyone attempting to improve equality.

I mean french revolution says hello? The worst that can happen is they scuttle off, rouse reactionary forces, and violently oppress billions again. Which they have consistently done no matter how attractive the proposed alternatives have been.

Also people who aren’t vegan and have encountered the idea also suck, so that isn’t exactly making your point.

I’m not getting into this. The rich willfully demonstrate every single day they are more intentionally anti-social than the most psychotic serial killers. They are pure aberrations, utterly remorseless, completely without empathy. They happily commit mass murder with the wave of a pen again and again, they are engaged in active omnicide. Literally they are actively killing entire ecosystems to avoid a life of staggering luxury vs a life of unimaginable luxury.

Nobody has ever demonstrated an effective treatment for such a disordered mind.

Scandanavia doesn’t rehab billionaires lmao.

If you have a way to rehabilitate them don’t hold back.

tbh you can’t exile people anymore and getting staggering rich requires sustained campaigns of oppressive violence and exploitation.

It’s self defence, you’re talking about people that have demonstrated a complete lack of empathy and a complete lack of wanting to use their resources to rectify that or limit the harms they can do.

These aren’t like people with FAS trying to do anger management courses because their brains got damaged. They’re unrepentant, remorseless, and cruel. They had the resources to do literally anything to demonstrate contrition and chose not to every single day.

That Australian number seems inflated by property. People bought houses 40 years ago for a handshake and a nod and now the houses are “worth” 2 million dollars or whatever. But if you sell your house you need to buy another one and they come in 2 sizes: million dollar family home or million dollar shoebox studio in the city.

So it’s monopoly money.

This is such bad faith it’s a waste of effort to talk to you. You’re not interested in learning anything, you’re just going to use debatelord nonense to move away from the substance of the disagreement into an argument about the semantics of it, then when I get exasperated insist you ‘won’ something.

Ultimately you don’t matter and you’re not worth my time, l8er treatlerite.

“I am willing to struggle against injustice, I know it will be a long road and that many will be killed brutally. Standing up for my ideals will cost me personally, and if it comes to revolution I may be tortured and executed.”

“Ok, eat your veggies”

🤬😡😡🤬😡😡🤬🤬🤬💢

You know it was in my living memory that killing a man for hitting on another man was reasonable self defense.

Just because something is normalised doesn’t mean it’s not a hideous evil.

vegantheoryclub has a veganrecipes community, and there’s a discord with many tasty foods (often a bit on the healthy side for my taste ;) ) linked there or in the homecooks comm.

If you’re used to the excess of a western diet it’s a little to learn, but really it’s just moving away from using fat and meat so much to spices and sauces.

TVP just needs flavouring with a sauce. you can use it to make e.g. https://theeburgerdude.com/vegan-burger-patties/#recipe, https://lovingitvegan.com/vegan-ground-beef/#recipe mixed into something like this https://minimalistbaker.com/1-hour-vegan-shepherds-pie/ and so on.

I often add it to things with lentils to add more chew, like to vegan burritos and so on. Just make a stock and soak then prior, and add flavour elements. Usual directions for me are earthy spices and herbs.

We see the same thing in climate action protests: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-024-01444-1.epdf

I believe researchers call it the radical fringe effect.

Killing animals = reasonable.

Demanding that people not kill others because the end products are enjoyable and convenient = unreasonable.

“Leftists” and strawmanning vegans because you’re mad that following your ideology consistently would require relatively minor life changes. Name a more iconic duo.

How the fuck are you going to build an equal and fair society when learning how to boil beans is too much sacrifice? Clowns.

It’s not a diet anymore than being against domestic violence is a fashion choice.

A diet based on plants follows from the ethical conclusion that other living beings are not things we can extract resources from and destroy for our pleasure and convenience.

Um it did not take the entire world, for a lot of their early success most of the fighting was against countries that were unprepared and devastated after ww1.

This image is silly though because you could just replace the text with “the sky is blue” or any other fact to make the opposite point. Like if you’re going to make a political cartoon the cartoon itself needs to be making some point. Don’t be like that seppo loon that just writes labels on everything.

Something like this is much funnier as the image and text play together.

Anarchy is a form of society without rulers. As a type of stateless society, it is commonly contrasted with states, which are centralised polities that claim a monopoly on violence over a permanent territory. Beyond a lack of government, it can more precisely refer to societies that lack any form of authority or hierarchy.

Why you gotta be so confident in your opinions when you haven’t bothered to even skim read a single article on the topic?

Like why? What leads to such false self confidence? It’s fine to not know things or double check stuff.

If you want to be taken seriously you should probably learn what private property is lol.

The commies aren’t coming for your toothbrush.