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Cake day: August 13th, 2023

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  • So Russia is invading? That alone, pretty much regardless of the reason, is enough to side with Ukraine.

    But that reason, even if true, is one of the stupidest reasons to invade. A softer, more propaganda focused approach would be both far more effective and far less costly, in both lives and resources. So either Russian leadership is so useless that an invasion is the best they can come up with, or they’re invading to take over Ukraine. Incompetent to the point of malice, or malice. Take your pick.










  • A. Please tell me exactly where I said Biden was anything more than a mildly less shit alternative to Trump. And please tell me where I was saying support the genocide, rather than support one of the people who supports the genocide.

    B. I have not been talking about what Biden should have done. I have only been talking about what voters should have done.


  • A. I hate to do this, but

    The audience I wish to reach doesn’t need their hand held as a child

    Strawman, saying that this is about “leading people like they’re children” not “clear and effective communication as equals”

    B. What I’m talking about is proactively sharing your views, both to save time on questioning and to fill gaps that others would have never thought to ask about. Please, tell me why this isn’t a needed part of discussion.


  • The point of teaching is sharing knowledge, not just poking holes in whatever argument you can (intentional hyperbole, not strawman)

    The point of learning fallacies isn’t so that you can just name them and feel like you’ve made a point.

    strawman

    Instead of just “strawman, therefore you’re wrong” and leaving it at that, how about you explain what was incorrect in that statement. That way you become more understood, and everyone understands you more.

    This isn’t a courtroom debate. This isn’t a debate you “win” or “lose”. This is a debate where everyone should be trying to understand each other, so that everyone ends up better off by the end. This sort of debate is a cooperative thing, not competitive.


  • That’s the question I answered.

    Which would you rather support?

    • Genocide
    • Genocide + fascism + other bad shit (probably including genocide 2)

    Pick one or give an alternative and a good reason that it will have some effect.

    The lesser evil in this situation is genocide without all the other shit, and supporting that is therefore damage control