Kangae_Hishiryo

I have explained everything with a lot more details in other comments. Read them before you hastily conclude that I don’t know what I’m talking about, because I’m not gonna repeat myself again and again to people that polarized; you’re falling into a non-sequitur fallacy from a fallacy of appeal to ignorance and a fallacy of the straw man.

That’s why piracy should be a right and a moral and legal obligation

Yeah, it’s really wild.

I personally am from center-left, though I have some common views with anarchism and this is one of them.

You’re based.

I truly don’t understand that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” rhetoric that LOT of folks maintain out there just because they hate the US. Like if China or Russia were better places to live. The worst part is that this is what dominant classes want, polarization.

I’m not taking that from the U.S. I’m just being consistent. The U.S. is good? Hell no, they’re fucking shit. That means that China’s good, automatically? Not, they’re fucking shit too. It’s as simple as that, I hate both because they’re simply the polar opposite of good.

Where you take that conclusion from? I’m not saying that western governments are better, but that both (western and eastern) are shit.

Yeah, I’m not saying that NATO or the US are better, but I’m trying to push back against the polarized, totally pro-China folks who are only following a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” rhetoric, thus becoming blind to all of China’s major issues.

For example, another point is that the entire economic boom in China is driven by an enormous working class that is heavily overexploited by the State yet rendered invisible for convenience, and that is barely compensated with less than the cost of a piece of candy for that labor.

You can also just get a VPN in China and access the outside internet relatively easily.

I wouldn’t be so sure. You need much more than that (as far as I remember, a specific form of DPI bypass, sometimes the use of multiple VPNs at once [which are hard to find and download because their sites are blocked within China’s territory], sometimes even Tor or another overlay network or mixnet [such as Nym, I2P, Hyphanet, or Freenet], and a lot more stuff that I don’t recall precisely because it’s far beyond my current technical knowledge).

…there are more parties…

Can you name a few? I’m asking honestly, not out of malice or to be combative; I’d like to know more about that, tbh, because it’s hard for me not to be skeptical about that claim.

And what Xi Jinping image cult?

Do you remember the whole thing with the Winnie the Pooh picture? Well, sort of that. Only a person who is egocentric, egolatrized, and narcissistic enough to instigate a cult of personality would actually ban something like that, and do it the way he did it. Also, you don’t have to go that far — look at the streets and you’re going to see photos and pictures of Jinping everywhere. And yeah, I know that it’s quite normal for a politician to display photos of himself in public areas, but not on that scale. Trust me, I know what I’m talking about; I’m from Venezuela, and both Chávez and Maduro had (and Chávez still has) a huge cult of personality, and everything aligns with Jinping’s imagery.

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Their “houses are for living, not for speculating” slogan is an example. China’s government might be actually doing something with that… Just to by the other hand harden their mass control and mass surveillance even more; not for anything they have one of the biggest — if not the biggest — regional firewalls (maybe just behind North Korea’s one) — the GFW. Then also they have “Reeducation Camps”, and all that stuff that any good fascist dictatorship has. Not to forgive Xi Jingping image cult.

So yeah, at what cost? It’s at the cost of their freedom. Oh, and China has other parties outside the Chinese Communist > Party? To think, ladies and gentlemen.

Finally, someone that’s reasonably and logically minded, between so much polarized people.

Their “houses are for living, not for speculating” slogan. China’s government might be actually doing something with that… Just to by the other hand harden their mass control and mass surveillance even more; not for anything they have one of the biggest — if not the biggest — regional firewalls (maybe just behind North Korea’s one) — the GFW. Then also they have “Reeducation Camps”, and all that stuff that any good fascist dictatorship has. Not to forgive Xi Jingping image cult.

So yeah, at what cost? It’s at the cost of their freedom. Oh, and China has other parties outside the Chinese Communist Party? To think, ladies and gentlemen.

Xi may be doing things well, but with a truly distopic fine-print beyond every single good thing.

Based. Venezuela and Cuba too (I’m from Venezuela, founder of the ALBA-TCP/BAPO-PTT [Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America - Peoples’ Trade Treaty], and Cuba is the main provider of military and political support of the Venezuelan Narcoterrorist State).

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Well, give me the studies, arguments and independent periodistic reports that are clearly not subject to interests conflicts.

Because I have them.

Again, you all are being, blind,bManichean and naive by basically cherry-picking and looking to another side when there’s information that doesn’t support your beliefs, just to attack the US (that, let’s accept it, it’s as authoritarian as China, but in a very different way).

Again, I hate both equally, and for me would be better if both Trump and Xi Jing Ping died.

Yeah lmao

And, again, I hate US too, but I hate every government/state/party/politician equally, so well… I’m just really pesimistic, more as I live in Venezuela, that basically divinizes China, and here we can barely even exist peacefully; just now we even have an arbitrary curfew for the army to steal everything they want in my town.

About “submission to authority”, it talks by itself: you have to think what the president or leader thinks, to want what they wat and to hate what they hate, and if you dissent even just a bare minimum, you’ll be paid with physical, mental and social violence.

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It is the same as the United States and Silicon Valley; I won’t defend China because I hate America, just as I can’t ally with Baphomet just to kill Lucifer.

I am politically pessimistic, so I don’t believe that any good state, government or politician really exists, they are all equally disgusting and putrid, and as such, I hate each and every one of them equally.