• snor10@lemm.ee
    12·
    3 years ago

    While I agree with the worry concerning corporations joining, I don’t really mind “normal” people joining though.

    That being said, this is an incorrect use of the meme. The text on the two bottom panels are supposed to stay the same.

    Sorry if I’m being pedantic.

    • mino@lemmy.mlOP
      11·
      3 years ago

      We sure have arrived at panel 2 indeed. If it works better for your mind consider it a completely new meme template that happens to have the same visual outline, because this meme communicates exactly what I want to communicate :)

      • UnelectedReimu@lemmy.ml
        7·
        3 years ago

        maintaining servers is a lot more affordable when your website isn’t bloated with tracking and unnecessary features. It’s not realistic for a corporation to buy up a significant chunk of the fediverse anyways

      • socsa@lemmy.mlBanned
        5·
        3 years ago

        Yeah anyone who thinks activityPub is immune to monetization is delusional.

      • Jee@lemmy.fmhy.ml
        4·
        3 years ago

        It honestly doesn’t seem that expensive based on others talking about their hosting costs. The bigger instance will be more expensive but they would also have a lot more people who can easily handle the cost without needing external funds. That said some instance will go that way not for the server cost but for simply money in their pocket at which point you can just switch to another instance.

        • pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
          5·
          3 years ago

          It gets more expensive if you strart a successful meme community with lots of data. Some big Mastodon servers already store gigabytes per hour. Even with Cloudflare the expenses can soon get pretty high.

          But yes, everything else with Lemmy is just a few euros a month.

          • astral_avocado@programming.dev
            5·
            3 years ago

            I still don’t understand why they aren’t just utilizing imgur and that catbox hosting service exclusively. Plenty of image/gif hosting options.

            • pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
              3·
              3 years ago

              The current default installation, especially if using Ansible, doesn’t use any commercial image hosting services. You need to go out of the golden path to do so.

              Even using an S3-compatible host is not in the default path: the files are stored to the server file system. So, yeah, maybe this is the reason. And of course, giving your content to a commercial entity is something people in the fediverse doesn’t like that much. Wasn’t the idea to get rid of these entities that can just be bought by a billionaire asshole and suddenly killing your community.

          • xavier666@lemm.ee
            4·
            3 years ago

            My lemm.ee instance costs around €150-200 per month (as per our admin) which is a medium sized instance but it is extremely well maintained. But it’s certainly not 100s of millions of dollars, that’s for sure.

          • Jee@lemmy.fmhy.ml
            2·
            3 years ago

            Someone made a thread specifically for that a while ago but don’t remember where or what the name was, sorry

  • lingh0e@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 years ago

    I can’t wait to be one of the “I was part of the great Reddit migration” dudes when this lemmy stuff inevitably goes tits up in 15 years.

  • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
    111·
    3 years ago

    I just wouldn’t use a corporate server. This here is more like old internet before the likes of google started to buy everything and consolidate the internet. Running a single server is not the same as a server farm in multiple countries.

    • amaze@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      3 years ago

      im still not sure how this whole thing works but i guess im using the https://sh.itjust.works/ instance…? What instance do you use / recommend?

      also, when I go to the home page and hit that “all” button and am I seeing content from all instances?

      • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
        31·
        3 years ago

        I started on lemme.world but it’s been getting hammered so I made a backup account on lemm.ee Yes when your feed is on local is the server you are on and all is all servers. It gets weirder though because you will also see posts from defederated servers, we can still comment like normal on them too but that server itself that’s defederated the people on that server will not be communicating with the rest of the federation.

        • amaze@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          3 years ago

          what exactly does defederation mean? that the instance has psuedo cut itself off from the other instances such that their own users dont see anything from the other instances? we can still see them but they cant see us?

          • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
            1·
            3 years ago

            Sort of yes but it’s the communications that change they all can see whats on all servers but their server is only commenting with themselves or whom they are federated with. I’m still new to this as well and I believe this is how it works. But I know there’s something that has to do with the content being a copy across other servers, that part I’m still iffy on lol.

  • NutWrench@lemmy.ml
    8·
    3 years ago

    In order to screw up Lemmy, corporations would have to take over 1300 or so Instances, scattered in different countries all over the world.

    The second they screwed up the most popular Instance(s), folks would just move to other Instances and they could defederate from the corporate ones.

  • Raphael@lemmy.world
    113·
    3 years ago

    That’s why we need to abolish private ownership, all corporations must be collectively owned by the community.

  • Bongles@lemm.ee
    8·
    3 years ago

    The neat part is they really can’t fuck it up. You can always run your own instance and defederate from a corporation causing problems. Eventually we’ll be getting the feature to block entire instances too so you won’t have to rely on your admin making that choice either.

      • pruwyben@discuss.tchncs.de
        3·
        3 years ago

        So companies fucked up the internet, and people had to make a new internet inside the internet. And when companies fuck that up too, we’ll make a new internet inside that one!

  • Uplink@programming.dev
    4·
    3 years ago

    Can corporations fuck it up if they want to? Couldn’t we just migrate to a new instance and not federate? Or not federate with them from the beginning?

    • guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      3 years ago

      I’ve already seen it happen with a company creating an account to plug their meal plan site, same thing that has been happening on reddit since it started. Just don’t trust any account thats trying to sell you something.

  • blazera@kbin.social
    3·
    3 years ago

    Corporation owns reddit, owns twitter, owns meta, owns twitch and youtube.

    Corporation cant own fediverse. Corporate interests could take over lemmy.world, or any other instance, but that doesnt give them the fediverse. They can block outside users from coming in, they can block inside users from going out, but they cant block outside users from eachother

      • Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        1·
        3 years ago

        Google was only able to do that because XMPP’s userbase was practically nonexistent by the time they pulled the plug. Google Talk had become such a hegemon that the overwhelming majority of XMPP interactions were between Google Talk users. Google had the option to keep tying themselves to a protocol that they don’t own to support access to a very small amount of users or develop their own system that they could do whatever they want with. Lemmy and Mastodon do not have that issue. Regardless of what Facebook does with Threads, Mastodon has millions of users and Lemmy reached over 300k. The majority of their users are unlikely to migrate their accounts over just to sell their souls to the Zucc. There is enough activity on Lemmy and Mastodon that many Threads users may make seperate accounts here should Threads eventually defederate, while the users of Lemmy and Mastodon simply go back to an existence without Facebook’s meddling. There’s not a situation where Threads can destroy Lemmy or Mastodon like there was with XMPP

      • Boinketh@lemm.ee
        0·
        3 years ago

        What a great warning! This sort of thing is why I think that we should try to have a more distributed userbase instead of everyone piling into one instance. I have nothing against @lemmy.world, but it being as big as it is can become a huge problem if its interests are ever compromised because defederation becomes infeasible when such a large portion of the userbase is in the instance everyone else wants to defederate.

    • Kraiden@kbin.social
      0·
      3 years ago

      Easy. ~~Ban~~ Defederate every company.

      FTFY. It’s FOSS. We can’t stop them from spinning up their own instances (See: Threads) but that doesn’t mean we have to play nicely with them.

      Edit: Fuck it, I can’t get the ~~strikethrough~~ to work.