• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Good, so we agree that simply being invaded does not suddenly put a government on the right side of history.

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        2 days ago

        There’s a bit of a difference between a punch to the face and a punch to the face in return. Or are we going to pretend these are the same thing?

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          2 days ago

          We’re not talking about a bar fight dude, we’re talking about eight years of ethnic cleansing and the threat of being nuked within minutes. Be serious please.

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            2 days ago

            I hear the best way to prevent being nuked is turning a cold war into a hot war.

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              The best way to avoid being nuked is to ensure those interested in nuking you don’t have first strike capabilities no matter the cost.

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                13 hours ago

                no matter the cost

                I did not expect to find a supporter of the US bombing of Iran in this discussion.

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                  11 hours ago

                  I wish I knew as little as you about world events. Iran had a fatwa against nuclear weapons the idea of them trying to make them was as true as Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Iran had a fatwa against nuclear weapons

                    That part is entirely true! However, as you are certainly aware, given your immense knowledge about world events, many country leaders have previously said one thing and done a different thing. From the publicly available data I can gather, Iran was not complying with international agreements they had ratified regarding enrichment limits up to about 2015. Given the publicly available information, I am willing to believe that Iran actually did not further their nuclear weapons program under JCPOA between 2015 and 2018. I don’t believe there is much doubt that they have since picked their nuclear weapons program back up; at the very least after the US re-introduced sanctions.

                    On a side note tying this back to the original discussion: Ukraine did have nuclear weapons and gave them up only under broad guarantees of continued independence… so… yeah.